It still should not come off. Please convince me not to settle with maple. I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. Also hope this helps .. colors hard to see on monitor, I tested classic seal, white stain and Nordic seal as well. Can you share the color? We ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. The finish guy said he put on 1.5 gal on the first coat of TrafficHD. Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? I would use Bona natural seal or classic with traffic hd extra matte. WebBona NaturalSeal Brand: Bona 87 ratings $8892 FREE Returns Customer ratings by feature Durability 5.0 Value for money 4.3 Easy to use 4.0 See all reviews Similar item to consider Amazon's Choice AmazonCommercial Multi-Purpose Enzyme Cleaner, 1-Gallon, 1-Pack (12347) $24.97 ($0.20/Fl Oz) Frequently bought together + + Total price: Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? Our cabinet maker will be finishing them, not us. Although, it can be used as a stand alone sealer. No one does work for free. I agree that Bona Natural or Bona Classic will likely be what we choose. Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including Do not use the following Bona naturale, Loba invisible, pearl or pure For the top coat. If you go natural, then ask yourself ONE question: "Do I like 'honey oak'?" If you answered NOOOOOOOO! I originally wanted a chocolate color but realized I like more contrast between floor and furnishings than a mid tone would give me. I didnt know what I wanted for finish when I contracted the job and their quote was for a cheaper finish. White streaks in floor. I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. I will mention some Quartzites have a higher level of porosity and should be sealed regularly. @Ryan Danielson what did you end up going with? These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. This is not designed to be the tough outer layer That means you relate clean with shiny. If he can't get it donethen hire someone NEW and send the bill to the original contractor. Any suggestions would be great. I already lost quite a bit of money in the process so I wanted to know what I get before committing. They are dry and need one more day to cure. When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. So I suppose its even better than 3 coats in 3 days as I originally thought given your advice. Thank you and the pros who commented for the valuable info! Your comment was devised to make me feel small and make worry about my floors when they are already finished. That's like painting a master piece with 10 minutes on the clock. Not sure if this is helpful but attached are picks of recently completed white oak with Bona natural seal followed by Bona traffic HD extra matte finish. You should look it up. @tkgriff Love the floor. I will report back once I have the application on a sample board. One other question. I have about 735 sf. They held up to move in with no major scratches. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. They apply the product too thin and it sets up quicker than recommended. We went with natural seal and traffic HD finish. @tkgriff I love your floors and am thinking about going for much the same look! For those asking to see Intense Seal on white oak. @mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. Apply the second coat. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. Which one did you end up going with? We installed almost 3000 sq ft throughout our home and it is the most important feature of our renovation. Most of the articles I read suggested that 3 protective coats is the way to go. I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. (Just read the dog drool threads.) We are prepping for a remodel and I have been using my kids roll of art paper and taping it to the ceiling to construct mock ups of potential walls. Thank you. Maybe a snick less because they won't be using any product. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. NordicSealis an easy to use water-based sealer from Bonawhich you can use it to achieve this popular whitewashed look. The NaturalSeal will offer the closest to the 'raw look' you are after. Absolutely love the matte finish. 1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. !Are you happy with the Satin? My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. Double cost any standard stained finish. Im glad we didnt go darker. Ive read quite a few different comments on all 3 and some seem conflicting. Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? We see it FAR to often (as in DAILY) on this forum. did you have a contract or at least an email stating you wanted white oak? Erfahren Sie hierzu mehr in der Houzz Cookie-Richtlinie. Sigh. p.s. One more thing, the rooms Ive put this flooring in are the master bedroom, guest bedroom and an office, so no heavily trafficked areas. I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. Just stick with Bona Traffic HD in a satin and you will be fine. ), Make sure your installer has experience using the Bona products and especially the Nordic. This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. And it is taking me some time to get used to a matte floor. It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. carlyhow many coats of HD did they apply? The problem is that at this point my trust level is quite low. WebWhite oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. There are MANY people who do NOT know they are 'clean-shiny' people until they purchase matte floors. If those were red oak, they did a very good job toning down the red. We planned to wait 6 days to move in and will use felts and place furniture down gently. Several dollars per square foot would be expectedthen you add the $4-$5/sf for the finish. Was a bit of a risky choice, went with a pretty unusual/bold extra wide 5" wide pattern and I think it turned out well. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. Light, white sealed floors or dark dramatic floors? Achieving a Natural, Untreated Look on Red Oak I am interested to Nordic seal on my project as well. It wasnt 3 coats in one day. I am attempting to coordinate real white oak with white oak LVPthe unfinished white oak is an amazing match to the Paradigm Conquest Windsor and Towerwanting to basically stain/seal the posts and rails in a way that changes the natural state the least, neutralizing any weed tones. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. It was light and made the room appear larger. We are looking for the same - any update on what you ended up using? * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. I believe there is a local one and I plan to at least explore that. I fear, though, that the amber color has penetrated the wood since a sealer was not used and I am stuck with a yellow floor. And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. True Quartzite is higher on the mohl's scale of hardness then granite. Ask youself, do you WANT to see a floor that shines AFTER you clean it? The samples are done AFTER you hire the professional but BEFORE you put down the stain! When was the last coat applied? See the before and afters and why we chose this color. So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. Thanks for taking the time to write all that! Will do.My two cents now that we are almost 6 month in. @tkgriff which did you go with and do you like? I think they are some discussions on houzz regarding that. That 'fit' can include their ability to communicate. Don't disagree with you at all. . For a house your size and a $50k budget. He said mitering the edges is a nightmare (if you dont mitre, there is a white edge because the color doesnt go all the way through - at least the marble design I chose). Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. Same price as Barker, but more choices for color (I'm doing white uppers/rift oak lowers) and lots of help with my kitchen design. A red oak floor does not need sealant. Make warm gray your new go-to neutral, Find the right local pro for your project, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/, 5 Essential Moves for Classic Scandi Style, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Natures Color Wisdom: Lessons on White From the Great Outdoors, What to Know About Engineered Wood Floors, Maison & Objet: Art Deco and a Return to Elegance, Color of the Week: Decorating With Warm Gray. Gravity works. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . However, I think the maintenance is much harder than what I previously had - natural red oak with a higher sheen. Was afraid it would look a bit cartoonish or out of place. How did you retained the natural color of the wood? The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Its typically the primary color in gardens. The solid white D e k t o n didnt clean up as well as Neolithic or Corian. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. These posts priceless. Houzz utilise des cookies et d'autres technologies de suivi similaires pour personnaliser mon exprience utilisateur, me proposer du contenu pertinent et amliorer ses produits et services. By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? It did not affect the color. My sister has Neolith and loves it (clean up a breeze but she does have nicks near her sink after 1 year). We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. Part of me wishes we went satin finish bc I realized I do like a little sheen on a floor (just washed look). The "real" professional-grade products view DuraSeal/Minwax (owned by the same company) to be 'DIY' level products. In this video, Joe demonstrates how to use Bona NordicSeal to achieve a whitewashed look in a hardwood floor. Your wood may take the coats differently than our wood. Many people would give their eyeteeth for floors of that quality. We got to see snippets of the finished floor today, and we love what we see. Hi M, thank you! I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). Bona NordicSeal to Create a Whitewashed Hardwood Floor Your floors are as important as your roof. We are building next year and making decisions now. 1 coat of nordic seal will subtly lighten the color of white oak, while 2 coats of nordic seal will make it significantly lighter. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. They are not even good choices for low care floors. A gallon of Bona Traffic HD = $180 - $200. Did G & S need to tell me, Well see how long this finish lasts? No. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. It has come out very well. That means a coat of Sealant and two coats of finish. Is the Nordic still a problem? :). Bona nordicseal is greenguard certified for indoor air quality. Painting Floor Tile or replacing floor tile, Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. Its for a new build. We only did two and are already seeing wear and tear on the first floor in our main living space. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. There are some lap lines on the floors from the sealer. WebBona NordicSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer that is formulated to provide a green alternative to a whitewashed floor without the use of caustic materials such as bleach. Do you think there is any major issue with this? This is a platform for people to help one another. MEANWHILE earlier in the process I had contacted the main Corian wholesaler for the East Coast, and had gotten the name of a fabricator in my area. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). That's what I ended up doing. White oak seems to be kind of tricky. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? They achieve 95% FULL CURE after 5 days. And all the answers. The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. Wood Floor Stain Colors 2023 Ideas and Pictures That makes SOOOO much sense. Shaina.. White Macaubas is a true Quartzite not a granite. I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? WebBona DriFast Stain mix of White and Grey with two coats of Bona NaturalSeal and finished off with Mega ONE on this beautiful floor by Beyond The Grain Custom Design with Territory Manager, Jeff Offredo, on site. One coat application to saturation, or (for best results apply 2nd coat 'wet on wet') Resistant to algae, lichen and staining. Of course the MORE coats you put on today.the FEWER coats you have to ADD in 15 years time (called a buff and coat and costs $3/sf on average). It still a major upgrade from Bona MEGa. Thank you for posting a picture! And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. Just wondering if 2 coats of the Traffic HD is enough or should I add a 3rd coat of the finish even in rooms that arent used as heavily? Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. The reactive simply pulls the tannins. My plan was boba natural seal plus 3 coats HD extra matte, but I didnt know about a next final step, please provide detail/product for final sealant step. Quartzite is a metamorphic stone.. Sandstone converts to Quartzite from extreme heat and pressure. We just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. Please continue to post pictures of your kitchen. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. Our hardwood installer actually did one coat sealant last Friday, then a coat of finish later in the day, then Saturday did another coat of finish. Find out how to keep them that way, Tired of tan? It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. They don't like doing it - because they go through SOOO many screening discs (I've heard of more than 12 discs being used in one home). One coat Bona Natural Seal A very slight natural stain similar to the white oak color of our floors. Very patient. If you are paying for professional grade products, just make sure you are GETTING professional grade products. I have my fingers crossed that I wont see white stripes when all the protective paper is pulled up. Refinish Red Oak Flooring How If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. Christina check out Rubio monocoat Gris belge Havana Slate grey These greys are very popular and with the matte sheen you will absolutely love them. Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. I worry that two coats might look too light, but with one coat, I still see some yellow coming through (my sample has the Traffic HD matte though, not satin). They were great to work with. Sorry but that isn't the way things are done in the building industry. I had no idea that white oak looks different when grown in one geographical area versus another. They were super rich! A sand/refinish of an existing floor = $4-$5/sf. If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. The 3 coats of finish (the expensive HD stuff) is the Gold Standardbut 2 coats + sealant is still very good. The people there were very patient with us and very helpful. I settled on something I didnt love and it turned out it was one of the most expensive ones. Get the third coat of sealer. If you think of the paint color of your cabinets.pass it on please. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. A 2 minute working time is EXTREME. He is a small shop and me and one other of his clients are the first to ask him for a "raw look" rift sawn white oak door. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. After looking into the flooring situation I found that if a wood floor person says "it won't hold up in Florida" theirs won't! Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. Is This the Year Blue and Green Kitchen Cabinets Edge Out White? Traditionally you will ask for QUOTES and then VIEW their work (photos or in person if they have clients who offer their home as a 'show piece' = very rare) and THEN you hire the person who as the best "fit" for your needs. I talked to the contractor and told him that I had to figure out a different finish. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Heres a pic kitchen isnt finished yet but should give you an idea, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, From silvery ash to honey blonde or chalk white, light-toned floors hold the key to the pared-back simplicity of Scandinavian style, Rustic touches from nature embellish the white-and-wood palette in this remodeled house in Denmark, White too bright in your kitchen? The NordicSeal is a great product for red oak it safely bleaches the wood and removes the harsh red tones. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. (Thank you @Joseph Corlett for giving me the confidence to use Corian and to Heartwood Solid Surfaces for doing the work.) WebBona ClassicSeal Floor sealer highlighting the wood's natural color Size: 1 gal Find a distributor Information Documents Key benefits Minimizes tannin bleed, especially on white oak Exceptionally clear, highlighting true color of wood VOC Compliant Seals the wood, preventing the finish from penetrating Information @Elaine Gauthier Art Did you find any solution or larger cabinet maker that has the white oak? Why did you decide to go with Corian? Bona Training costs money. If youre really interested, Ill call the installer Brazilian Floors and see if he still has the info. I'd say I send back at least 20 bundles a year that are not true Quartzites even though they are passed off to me as such. Question - is there a reason a floor may take or need less finish? Okay we have decided to go with Bona Traffic HD in extra matte! Web$55.00 Mainstays Farmhouse Oversized Floral Cream Area Rug, 7x10 for sale in Murray, UT on KSL Classifieds. I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. The raw wood that was laid (almost the whole house) looks beautiful. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. The supplier may help you out. My flooring guy said (and backed it up with a sample) that a water-based sealant with *no tint* (I think Bona ClassicSeal?) Any ideas on stain/stain combos and sealants to make it happen? (Plus, the Rubio, the longer it sat there, the more tannins it pulled.) I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. (The chocolate would have been fabulous next to it.) He will then send the sample to a Sherwin Williams Product Finishes Store and they will match the sample. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? NordicSeal is going to give you a white frosting. 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There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. Sie knnen nicht notwendige Cookies ber Einstellungen verwalten ablehnen. 1 coat in the morning and 1 coat in the afternoon. And it does NOT cause amberingbut the Mega does. Have a wet rag handy to wipe away mistakes and drips. I wish I could do it myself or delete the rude and negative comments. The above comments are right. Let him fix it ONCE. From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. Anything over 700 square feet for me is done in multiple days. Can they be easily buffed out with a non-scratch sponge? DuraSeal is light on the wallet (of the contractor) so they like to use it. 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